Comments on: And While We’re on the Subject of Politics (or Not)

By: Sarahlynn

Sarahlynn — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:50:00 +0000

Some of the liberal attacks on Palin are nasty and sexist.

But worse still is her treatment by the right, where their defense of her is nasty and sexist!

All this treating her like a delicate flower business, and deflecting all legitimate questions about her positions, religion-as-it-relates-to-her-politics, and history are called sexist.

When conservative men and women start treating Palin like any other candidate and also stop telling me that, among her many other qualifications, she' so pretty, well, then, maybe we can have a real conversation about this.

By: Shawn

Shawn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:00:00 +0000

I feel sorry for Palin only because of how she is being judged as a working mother.

But, it stops there. Everything else, including that, she welcomed when she decided to be the tool for the GOP machine that knew it was going to lose this election.

When she agreed to be a tool, all bets come off the table and she is now an open book. That's different from when HRC took on the world for being strong, wearing pant suits and for just having a vagina.

By: Mary P Jones (MPJ)

Mary P Jones (MPJ) — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:23:00 +0000

Several of you (understandably, given the horrible state of political dialogue in this country which does not lend itself to anything that is not black and white) seem to have completely misread my feelings on Sarah Palin, so expect a followup post at some point.

By: Molly

Molly — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:03:00 +0000

I think Sarah Palin stands for the polar opposite of everything Hillary stands for. I'm a devout feminist and desperate to see a woman in the white house, but not that woman. If it were up to Mrs Palin, you wouldn't be able to have that legal "D&C" and that's not okay with me.
Just my two cents, whatever that's worth.

By: catspajamas

catspajamas — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:15:00 +0000

I refuse to vote on someone based on what is between their legs. To me it's no better than voting based on someone's skin color. Would I love to have a woman president...absolutely, I am the mother of a daughter and I want her to know that her hopes and dreams are not limited to a supporting role in this world. Sadly, Sarah Palin is not someone who shares any of my views, or values. I also find myself increasingly upset with her for the position that she has now put her 17 yr old child in. Palin had to know what a media circus this would be, and I feel the poor kid is being forced into a marriage to save face.

By: Ariane

Ariane — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:24:00 +0000

MPJ, you are right, the Democrats keeping running on the issues, and they need to compromise a small (!) number of principles to win this. But it doesn't make sense to side with the XX candidate just because the Republicans do know how to play your emotions. You (and all those other pissed off women) don't have to play their game.

As far as I can see, the XX is the only thing Palin has in common with Hilary. You can identify with the crucifixion she is currently undergoing without bringing it to your election politics.

And so I will stop lecturing you. I guess I am throwing strong language at you because you are trying to work through stuff, and I find that kind of things helps me, regardless of whether I agree with it. Apologies if it helps you not at all. Just throw this in the bit bucket if it crosses the line for you.

By: Stagnant Artist

Stagnant Artist — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:42:00 +0000

i have issues with Palin. I hate that she is riding on the coattails of Hillary. She openly admits it and that is why the Republicans are using her. So that she will sway the Hillary votes. Now granted, I am not a Hillary fan, never was. I just didn't care that she was a woman, I just wanted someone different. I felt as though we have had the same people in office and I wanted someone new. I will be posting about my issues with the Republicans soon. HA!- sorry Joe Lieberman is on the RNC and it says former Democrat.

Anyways, she has not governed more than 10K people, she has hunted moose. She does not own a passport. the media is making it seem that Democrats would abort children if they knew the child was handicapped. Blanket statements make me not trust people like that. And then to make a blanket statement like that and say how they believe in family values... and then her daughter gets knocked up...

I could go on and on, which i will in my blog post tomorrow, but I just am saddened by all this. I look forward to the debates.

By: Addicted Rantings

Addicted Rantings — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:54:00 +0000

MPJ- Either you’re really obtuse, or really, really brilliant. If there is one way to get people's blood boiling it’s talking politics, you SO know this.

So because I consider you one of the most level headed and well thought-out people out here in blog-nirvana, my money is on you being brilliant.

Oh, and Obama rocks!

By: listeningmoth

listeningmoth — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:53:00 +0000

Please comment on Sarah Palin. I'd love to hear your view. She scares the hell out of me, and it's not because she's a powerful woman. But I think the fact that she's a woman makes me a bit angrier. I'm not conflicted, just confused by how much I can't stand her. I am hating and judging her because I think if she met me she'd hate and judge me, even though I'd try to like her. She'd question MY parenting skills. I'm fucked up about this.

By: Mary P Jones (MPJ)

Mary P Jones (MPJ) — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:44:00 +0000

e, that doesn't terrify me at all anymore. People are human. They do and will vote on things other than issues and qualifications, regardless of how the world should be.

What does terrify me (as a liberal) is that Democrats keep running on issues and qualifications alone and completely disregard (or are shocked and offended by) the fact that people vote based on other things. I wish they would take that into consideration and use it.