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		<title>By: Misery Marketing</title>
		<link>http://aroomofmamasown.com/2008/09/leap-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-4155</link>
		<dc:creator>Misery Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will now take a bow. I take full credit for this post. I love the comparison here. It also makes me feel for the SA&#039;s partners since I know what a bitch it is to continue that leap of faith consistently. Anyway if you think about it in terms of two choices then here the cool part. If you chose to believe he is an addict with no power over it and you stay with him and you are wrong then you feel like an idiot. If you chose to believe he is an asshole choosing to hurt you and therefore leave him and then find out you are wrong then you will feel like the mostest biggest idiot of all time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will now take a bow. I take full credit for this post. I love the comparison here. It also makes me feel for the SA's partners since I know what a bitch it is to continue that leap of faith consistently. Anyway if you think about it in terms of two choices then here the cool part. If you chose to believe he is an addict with no power over it and you stay with him and you are wrong then you feel like an idiot. If you chose to believe he is an asshole choosing to hurt you and therefore leave him and then find out you are wrong then you will feel like the mostest biggest idiot of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: My name is Ken and I'm a sex addict.</title>
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		<dc:creator>My name is Ken and I'm a sex addict.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go so far as to say that even agnostics and atheists are basing their worldview on faith as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Although that word may be anathema to agnostics and atheists, it seems true to me.  This is exemplified by the response of your atheist scientist friend.  Remarkably similar to your christian friend!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The existence of a higher power can neither be proven nor disproven, as you have stated.  Therefore, any statements about a higher power&#039;s existence must be based on &quot;faith.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;on a side note, I put religion-bashing scientists and atheism-bashing religious followers in the same basket of crazy.  They are both extremists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go so far as to say that even agnostics and atheists are basing their worldview on faith as well.</p>
<p>Although that word may be anathema to agnostics and atheists, it seems true to me.  This is exemplified by the response of your atheist scientist friend.  Remarkably similar to your christian friend!</p>
<p>The existence of a higher power can neither be proven nor disproven, as you have stated.  Therefore, any statements about a higher power's existence must be based on "faith."</p>
<p>on a side note, I put religion-bashing scientists and atheism-bashing religious followers in the same basket of crazy.  They are both extremists.</p>
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		<title>By: Chatterness</title>
		<link>http://aroomofmamasown.com/2008/09/leap-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>Chatterness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God has been good to me.  Miracles left and right.  I know him and his miracles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God has been good to me.  Miracles left and right.  I know him and his miracles.</p>
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		<title>By: MargauxMeade</title>
		<link>http://aroomofmamasown.com/2008/09/leap-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-4113</link>
		<dc:creator>MargauxMeade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie, do you live at my house? I&#039;ve never heard anyone describe the cycle before and you just described my husband in his acting out phase to a T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie, do you live at my house? I've never heard anyone describe the cycle before and you just described my husband in his acting out phase to a T.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MPJ this is a subject I can relate to and I agree - there is much in life that requires such leaps of faith. Cat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPJ this is a subject I can relate to and I agree - there is much in life that requires such leaps of faith. Cat</p>
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		<title>By: Syd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good post. Ultimately, I made a choice to not wonder what motivates others but to trust in myself and my Higher Power. I make the choices that are best for me. As a scientist, I&#039;ve come to believe that there is something (a power) greater than myself. That belief is based on faith and hope. No one has gone to the other side and come back to present evidence to the contrary. So I keep believing too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good post. Ultimately, I made a choice to not wonder what motivates others but to trust in myself and my Higher Power. I make the choices that are best for me. As a scientist, I've come to believe that there is something (a power) greater than myself. That belief is based on faith and hope. No one has gone to the other side and come back to present evidence to the contrary. So I keep believing too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaden Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaden Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but think of what a  philosopher once said: &quot;Believe them that say they seek truth.  Doubt them that say they have found it.&quot;  I think there is too much out there to know for sure anything, especially as it relates to spiritual matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't help but think of what a  philosopher once said: "Believe them that say they seek truth.  Doubt them that say they have found it."  I think there is too much out there to know for sure anything, especially as it relates to spiritual matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Guilty Secret</title>
		<link>http://aroomofmamasown.com/2008/09/leap-of-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-4109</link>
		<dc:creator>Guilty Secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well explained. There is little certainty in life.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You reminded me (rather off-topic, but you liked my naming my unborn children so here goes...) I&#039;ve thought for years when I get a cat I want to call it Chomsky. Then Baddie and I were talking about what we would call our dog and I suggested Dawkins or Darwin. We thought this would be hilarious because people wouldn&#039;t realise it was tongue in cheek and think we were a bunch of middle class t*ssers! But I still kind of love it because I *love* being an atheist. And you just made me see, there&#039;s a kind of faith in that, which is probably when I felt so comforted when I got off the fence and declared myself an atheist. Hmm, I should post about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well explained. There is little certainty in life.</p>
<p>You reminded me (rather off-topic, but you liked my naming my unborn children so here goes...) I've thought for years when I get a cat I want to call it Chomsky. Then Baddie and I were talking about what we would call our dog and I suggested Dawkins or Darwin. We thought this would be hilarious because people wouldn't realise it was tongue in cheek and think we were a bunch of middle class t*ssers! But I still kind of love it because I *love* being an atheist. And you just made me see, there's a kind of faith in that, which is probably when I felt so comforted when I got off the fence and declared myself an atheist. Hmm, I should post about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I think of it all is that as a scientifically indoctrinated person, I aim to have a working model of the universe that firstly works, and then is internally consistent. When I tried really hard to believe in Christianity, it just didn&#039;t work. It wasn&#039;t internally consistent either. It wasn&#039;t the best fit for my evidence. I don&#039;t think of it as a leap of faith to not believe in God, I think of it as God not being in my best fit model. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From what I have read, sex addiction being real seems to be the best fit model for a real set of circumstances. I don&#039;t have a lot of evidence to assess the model, but you do. If it is a best fit model for you, it is as real as anything else in this universe. The way I think about it, you aren&#039;t making a leap of faith, you are working on the best available model. Not that I have a problem with the idea of a leap of faith, it just feels more like a logical step than a leap to me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I think of it all is that as a scientifically indoctrinated person, I aim to have a working model of the universe that firstly works, and then is internally consistent. When I tried really hard to believe in Christianity, it just didn't work. It wasn't internally consistent either. It wasn't the best fit for my evidence. I don't think of it as a leap of faith to not believe in God, I think of it as God not being in my best fit model. </p>
<p>From what I have read, sex addiction being real seems to be the best fit model for a real set of circumstances. I don't have a lot of evidence to assess the model, but you do. If it is a best fit model for you, it is as real as anything else in this universe. The way I think about it, you aren't making a leap of faith, you are working on the best available model. Not that I have a problem with the idea of a leap of faith, it just feels more like a logical step than a leap to me. <img src='http://aroomofmamasown.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sophie in the Moonlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie in the Moonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should go over in your greatest hits.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For me, (cuz&#039; it&#039;s ALL ABOUT ME), the proof in my theorem on my husband&#039;s sex addiction is that when he is acting out, he is a completely different person.  He thinks he&#039;s normal, but when addicts are acting-out they lose as many brain cells as semen.  He first becomes a selfish butt nose, then argumentative and whiny, then can&#039;t seem to read a clock, and has a million excuses for every irregularity in his routine.  He&#039;s not as attentive to the boys, upon whom he DOTES, and, when he is really deep in cycle, he watches me dress and undress with utter contempt in his eyes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That f@#^*r is not my husband. That bastard does what he does (i should point out how infrequently this happens now and to less drastic extents) knowing full well that if push came to shove, i would take the boys away from him to protect them from a dysfunctional environment that approves of the objectification of women in potentially abusive situations.   And the chain of sequence, the ritualistic pattern of behavior, is what gives me faith that Bowser does indeed struggle with a sexually compulsive addiction.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But his journey to recovery is and has been his salvation, and THAT is the &lt;b&gt;man&lt;/b&gt; I believe in whole-heartedly.  I don&#039;t need any faith for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should go over in your greatest hits.</p>
<p>For me, (cuz' it's ALL ABOUT ME), the proof in my theorem on my husband's sex addiction is that when he is acting out, he is a completely different person.  He thinks he's normal, but when addicts are acting-out they lose as many brain cells as semen.  He first becomes a selfish butt nose, then argumentative and whiny, then can't seem to read a clock, and has a million excuses for every irregularity in his routine.  He's not as attentive to the boys, upon whom he DOTES, and, when he is really deep in cycle, he watches me dress and undress with utter contempt in his eyes.</p>
<p>That f@#^*r is not my husband. That bastard does what he does (i should point out how infrequently this happens now and to less drastic extents) knowing full well that if push came to shove, i would take the boys away from him to protect them from a dysfunctional environment that approves of the objectification of women in potentially abusive situations.   And the chain of sequence, the ritualistic pattern of behavior, is what gives me faith that Bowser does indeed struggle with a sexually compulsive addiction.</p>
<p>But his journey to recovery is and has been his salvation, and THAT is the <b>man</b> I believe in whole-heartedly.  I don't need any faith for that.</p>
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